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let her see you with some of her panty's ...

ive thought about the masturbation thing and two things. if she doesnt like and tells her mum how do i get out of that? and secondly how should i get caught with her panties, don't want to make it to obvious.
I don't know whether its maybe just me but i get the feeling she does find me attractive and she has in the past said that a couple of her mates have told her that i'm hot (which we all laughed off) but that was what started me thinking bout it.

We do get on and i have tried the brushing past her accidently and she doesnt pull away but it has only been a fleeting touch.

I want to do it very slowly so if she said anything to her mum i could explain it away.

Thanks for answers though

reduce your thoughts to the fact that she is just a female and would respond to any male in a favorable way if its done properly. works on super hot chicks as well. ignore the part that stands out and inhibits you from proceeding to get her to respond to you how u want. bitches get hypnotized when you put them in their place. she is 18, thats a mind of nieve putty to mould how you want. i suggest placing your cum deep inside her where it is supposed to be. she already knows it belongs in there too. no need to appologize for having a healthy sex drive. girls that age do what men tell them to do.

Isn't she a bit too old now ?

thanks, the last post made alot of sense, we do have what i consider a good relationship and do chat about all sorts (not sexual. i will definately try the looking at her in the eyes a bit differently and see where that goes.

i know what you mean about cock ruling the head, i do get alot of sex from the wife but typically i always need a wank.

as for the psot saying shes too old, no not at all, i have known her since twelve and only the past year have i been interested, the younger is not for me, sorry.

Any other tips will be gratefully recieved and thankyou dirty harry, will send a message soon, cheers.

hi again, harry have tried to send you a message but it says there is an error sending, sorry.

But thanks to all too

Junyway i have been trying the st tried again but says error, do i have to register first?

Anyway i have been trying the longing look and she doesnt look away, she seems to look back and hold eye contact. i'm going to keep doing that and chatting, so thanks for advice......hopefully.

Any other tips or experiences that have worked will be gratefully recieved.

Do u ever give each other hugs n kisses when u see each other or when u say goodbye? If not, start doing that so she can get use to u touching her. Make it seem casual though and not sexual, try to make her feel more comfortable around u. When chatting, throw in a couple of jokes and make her laugh, just make sure its funny. After a while, u can start throwing in some dirty jokes but nothing too extreme. There should be progression so u have to turn things sexual little by little. Throwing in some dirty jokes is quite safe since u can always say it was just a joke so even if she tells your wife, u wont really get in trouble. The one thing u dont want to do is be too friendly with her. If she starts seeing u as a friend then thats were u will end up, just friends. In other words, be nice but not too nice and when there is opportunity, be a little bit playful so she doesnt end up seeing u just as a friend. If u play your cards right, u will hit the jackpot.

thats great thanks, no we dont really hug but will slowly try to bring it in. i do tell her jokes and have told her some dirty ones (she is 18 after all) and she does laugh.

Should i do anything else though, i want to move it on but obviously want to be careful. I read on here all the time about letting them see you come out the shower etc, not neccesarily completely naked but does that ACTUALLY work, i'm quite nervous about it.

I will keep going the slowly route and more help tips will be good. i will keep you up to date with trying the tips you have given so far.

Cheers

Op sound either gay or a virgin..don't you know anything about girls and women??
i think OP is sitting and jerking off to the "advice" given here..who the fuck goes here for serious advice anyway??

Gay or a virgin, answered your own argument there fella, if i were gay or a virgin then you are correct i wouldnt know anything about women would i, but well done for trying to be all grown up, bless!! bellend. I knew there would be answers like yours but inbetween there are people who give good advice or pass on thier real experiences. so, if you dont like what you read, move on and find a topic you want to talk about.

Thanks

Very intelligent come back 'fucking twat and piss ant very very clever. Are you not also taking up space by replying on this thread. You really cant put together a decent arguement.

Thanks to everyone else though