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Feb. 2009 Obama's "Stimulus" plan passes at an inital cost to taxpayers of $787 billion.

Dec. 2010 Obama rejects the report given to him by his own self-appointed bipartisan Debt Commission, which called for drastic spending cuts.

Jan. 2011 Obama proposes yet more Federal programs to add to the national debt, over and above the current .40 out of every $1 (source: Fox News) that goes to pay for his debt.

Feb. 2011 Obama submits his budget which drastically increases his own spending & would plunge the U.S. into further debt. His budget is defeated with all 97 members of the Senate voting against it (source CNN).

March 2011 It is revealed that Obamacare is loaded with $105 BILLION in hidden special interest spending (source: Washington Post). Which is why Pelosi wanted to, "pass it so we can find out what's in it."

Now that Obama has racked up more Federal debt then all 43 previous Pres. combined (source Wall Street Journal & CNS news), he is stomping his feet, threatening that the elderly may not get their Social Security checks (which by the way is THEIR money, not his) unless he gets the debt ceiling raised (which SEN. Obama was against!), and gets major tax increases.

The whole point of this thread is that "Hope & Change" is really the same old liberal "tax & spend" bullshit. Those of us with brains & a knowledge of history knew long before he was elected that all of his give aways of tax money was planned so that he could plunge the country into debt in the trillions and try to FORCE moderates and conservatives to raise taxes drastically to support the explosion of government.

Harry Truman said, "The only thing new in the world is the history that you don't already know". Well Obama, since you didn't learn a damn thing from last fall's election landslide... you're going to be doomed to a Jimmy Carter legacy of being a one term pres.

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13 Jul 2011 2:14PM

Oh & by the way... members of Congress both democrat and republican have come out and said that there is money in the Soc. Security Trust Fund, and that there is no reason to withhold payments to seniors whether the debt ceiling is raised or not.

Obama....what a hero.

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13 Jul 2011 4:26PM

obama will win in 2012 just watch and see ....thank god for that...just think of the alternative,,,scares the hell out of me

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13 Jul 2011 4:32PM

Well of course the alternative scares you... because all of your "free" taxpayer health care won't happen. All of the taxpayer $$ and favoritism to your corrupt union will go away. And worse of all, you might acutally have to go out and GET A JOB & pay taxes like the rest of us!!! OMG!

Naturally you're scared, because all your free ride on entitlements off the taxpayers will be turned upside with repubicans in charge. Poor little socialist.

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13 Jul 2011 4:43PM

your an idiot dont believe in your belief just like all republicans and im a socialist to let you know i am a business owner and have been for several years and employ over 60 people ...and have always been a democrat and i believe in some cases people do need help not like you republicans who beliueve only the rich matter and if you keep squeesing the middle class and it disapperars dont thin that a revolution can not occour in this country and then you will be on the bottom with the rest of you and your morons

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14 Jul 2011 2:06PM

No, an idiot is someone who blathers on about their feelings as if they were fact, and therefore cannot and does not provide any fact or the sources that go with them.

An idiot assumes someone is a republican when they aren't and they don't know the person. The reason being that what they believe is being threatened so they get their panties in a bunch and start making posts based on their faggot emotions.

Taxes are what kills the middle class you idiot. It takes away their freedom and their purchasing power. The same taxes that Obama, Reid and Pelosi have been forcing down our throats for the last 5 years. But I don't expect an over emotional ingoramus to understand that.

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14 Jul 2011 3:20PM

like i said before your an idiot and a moron who is hell bent on destroying this nation

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14 Jul 2011 3:48PM

Oh yeah? And I suppose your dad is taller then my dad too, huh? Go back to the playground where you belong, moron.

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14 Jul 2011 11:22PM

All rational, no logical. Typical. Taxes are good? Yes. When properly maintained at levels sustainable to that of the middle class, because, even though a guy that makes 2 million dollars a year has to pay 50% or more on taxes, if you think that it on that basis, he still takes home a million. Fuck, I'd be happy if I took home 90 thousand a fucking year, I'd gladly pay 30% on my taxes, but frankly, that's not how it works.

The middle class is the one that suffers the brunt force of the taxes, the lower class lives off the middle class, and the upper class could care the fuck less cause they are rich fucks. I love how people bring up statistics like "The rich make up 3% of the U.S. Population and pay 97% of the taxes" if that were so, as it is stated, then why does someone that only makes 60k a year paying 25% in taxes? Plus 5% for state, plus 10% for whatever the fuck else, in the end someone makes 4000 dollars in a month and only see's 500 of it.

I try to put everything in perspective but in my current living state, I really can't. Sure, I bitch and moan about how I don't make enough to sustain my bills and my car and feed myself easily, but I still get the fuck up in the morning and go to fucking work, why? Cause I'm not some lazy fucking leech.

By the way, in the current state of society, "your a fucking morning cause i said so cause your a fucking moron" only makes you look stupider. Well, I don't think that's possible, but, as much as I believe in my right to free speech, if I don't have a comeback that's worth a shit, I keep my fucking mouth shut. You should do the same.

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15 Jul 2011 2:07AM

^Next time try posting when you're sober.^

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13 Jul 2011 4:28PM

^Spoken like a true ideological communist moron^ LOL

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13 Jul 2011 5:14PM

republicans = brain dead. bush destroyed the world economy. the worlds mocks republican voters

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14 Jul 2011 2:10PM

These are the kind of posts liberals make when they can't despute the facts the OP posted. "Well, we can't deny what he says, he has listed all the sources on his facts, so all we can do is name-call, and use the same put downs we did at recess when we were 12". Pathetic, LOL.

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14 Jul 2011 2:20AM

I just love how the republican party is dealing with everything right now. they couldn't decide who to fuck, ended up fucking themselves and are about to fuck the people they represent, all in the name of fucking Obama.

GL in 2012 with people like Michelle Bachman and Mitt Romney as you p********ial hopefuls. Hopefully Palin will jump in so you can blame it on the retard when she looses.

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14 Jul 2011 2:26PM

Childhood should be filled with dreams, so you keep on dreaming yours! LOL

If you think you're going to win people over by calling names like "retard" when your liberal Pres has got the country in such a fucking mess, go right ahead. Everyone knows that all 3 people you mentions have way more experience then Obama had when he was elected. And none of them have the baggage of $4/gallon gas, lying about closing Gitmo, lying about ending 2 wars, starting a 3rd war, putting the US in debt more then every previous pres. combined, cutting $500 billion out of Medicare, and passing socialist healthcare against the wishes of the public.

You go ahead, loser......keep dreaming the dream!

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14 Jul 2011 2:20PM

I've been reading all the liberal/socialist posts on this thread with a huge smile on my face because they were likely made by the same person. LOL

But more then that, is because of the fear they reveal. The more that liberals get scared, & that the facts of Obama's and Pelosi's failures are pointed out to them, the more frightened they become that last years trouncing in the election is going to look like a picnic compared to the 2012 election.

With Obama's poll numbers at all time lows for failure after failure, and over 70% of the population saying not to increase his debt ceiling (aka blank check), liberals can see the p r e s i d e n c y, and the senate slipping away next year.....and they are SCARED TO DEATH! lmao!

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14 Jul 2011 7:27PM

OP could have included that many of Obama's own debt commission recommended scaling down or eliminating all together much of the Obamacare law, as it will send the USA into a financial tailspin (welcome to Greece).

But its not just the Pres. and the Congress. Instead of handling California's mountain of debt currently at $377,510,000,000 (that's over $10,000 for every man woman and child in Ca.), today Gov. Jerry Brown(D) signs a bill that requires the teaching of homosexual lifestyle and history in every public school!

As long as we allow politicians to act irresponsibly & shirk their duty, we're going to get moron's like Brown & Obama that keep drinking Kool Aid while Rome is burning around them. Disgraceful!

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15 Jul 2011 1:41PM

The Republican hatemonger on these forums is so predictable. Just look for misspellings, grammar mistakes, and the keywords "fag, moron, lmao, fact, LOL, and failfag" while simultaneously accusing liberals of doing nothing but name-calling, and inserting various internet-sourced info that loosely relate to his "point", which on the surface appears to be typical right-wing rhetoric, but on closer inspection actually deconstructs into nothing more than an indoctrinated fear of socialism created in the 50's. Socialism is part of our government. SSI, military pensions, medicare, medicaid, disability pay, and VA benefits are all socialism. Should we tell our disabled veterans they are lazy leeching socialists who should go get jobs? If so, I will leave that task to you. The point? Not all socialism is bad. Your blanket description/equation of liberals=socialists is actually more of a compliment than an insult. http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/sspus/

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15 Jul 2011 3:29PM

^And the liberal is so unimaginaive that he has to copy what the "republican" posts^....like calling him "predictible". Why don't you try comiing up with your own ideas for posts? Why don't you quit calling people names like "hatemonger" just because they disagree with you. Why? Because like Obama you try to lie, scare, and mislead people all in an attempt to further your left-wing dogma.

There has been no worse name-calling, even saying that republicans like Palin & Bachman should die. I've never seen one rebpublican or conservative say that about a liberal democrat. While decrying name-calling above, you did that very thing in your previous sentence. So you sir, are the worst type of pot calling the kettle black hypocrite.

As usual, with all of your liberal whining you have not disproven, or even tried to disprove one of the conservative facts nor the sources from which they were obtained. The OP, for instance, listed all types of sources including the arguably left-wing CNN & Washington post, supporting the facts he stated. Where are you facts? Where are your sources? In typical fashion all you do is whine on about your hurt feelings and how butthurt you are when the facts shine light on your liberal ideology, making you scurry like a bunch of exposed cockroaches.

Yes, you indeed should know what rhetoric is! Because that's all you posted above, being devoid of any facts in your posts its all we hear from you, and its how Obama got elected.....rhetoric. You've proved you left wing socialists are experts in that.

It's not the 1950's or conservative posts that create fear about socialism. It's the constant failure in Cuba, the USSR, North Korea, East Germany, Venezuala, and countless other societies where it has been a miserable failure that intellegent people that know history fear and shun this opressive form of government. Socialistic, anti-free market ideas are why the USA is in the world of hurt that its in right now. Only someone ignorant of history and geopolitics would mindlessly attempt to post the "benefits" of such a failed ideology.

We Americans can be glad of one thing, though. That after decades of calling yourself, "democrats", then "progressives", and "greens", your ilk is finally being honest about what you really are....Socialists. Truly something only an ignoramus could consider "more of a compliment then an insult". It will be a delight to see you and all of your big government give away programs voted out in 2012.

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15 Jul 2011 6:58PM

Actually, we are in this mess because of the unrestricted free-market policies that Alan Greenspan and co. promoted and forced down our throats, which ultimately led to the sub-prime/toxic asset market crash during Bush's tenure. Greenspan believed this was the way markets (and indeed, the whole financial world) worked but he was wrong and even admitted it before Congress. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html Anyway, the fuck is a conservative fact? Facts are independent of party affiliation. What kind of mindless drone would even say such a thing.

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16 Jul 2011 4:19AM

WTF are you smoking? Business has been so restricted with Federal regulations, environmental laws and other bullshit since 1969, it just proves to everyone here that you've never owned a business, managed one or been in any position of responsibility or leadership if you believe business has been "unrestricted".

That moronic stance completely invalidates your whole post. Once again, posting what you "feel" doesn't make it fact! If anyone should know a "mindless drone" its you! LOL

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16 Jul 2011 8:48PM

Always with the straw-man fallacies. I didn't say unrestricted business. I said unrestricted free-market policies, which anyone with a brain should realize refers to Wall Street and the businesses (mortgage brokers, banks, credit rating outfits, and those who made huge fortunes with toxic derivatives) with enough influence to actually affect the country as a whole. I'm happy if you own a business, but your tiny little operation does not affect the market as a whole in any significant amount. Why are you going on about feelings? I am stating things plain and simple. You really need some new material chief.

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17 Jul 2011 2:00AM

LOL, you need to come up with some original material. As evedenced by every previous post, you libs are the ones that are long on posting your feelings as fact, but short on proof and sources.

Since you can't seem to handle the old material...i.e. facts with the sources from which they come, I'll hold off any new material. Don't want to tax your limited intellect.....Chief.

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16 Jul 2011 4:26AM

Someone should inform the dipshit liberal above that Allan Greenspan was outed as a DEMOCRAT years ago by the late Robert Novak. Kind of blows holes in your dipshit theory, doesn't it?

Also it was Rep. Barney Frank (D) that forced loosening regulations on home loans which caused massive defaults and the economic meltdown. There's a thing called google, look it up if you're not too stupid to, liberal.

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17 Jul 2011 2:06AM

Why bother liberals with facts? Since they base everything on their "feelings", they think they know everything already anyway. They'll just ignore the fact that you corrected them & posted the truth about Greenspan and Barney Frank & keep on blathering the same old bullshit.

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15 Jul 2011 3:50PM

Wow, so we have a failed "Stimulus Plan", Obamacare that was supposed to drive down costs & so far done the opposite, growth of government programs to the point where the debt its created is putting us of the verge of default, private business closing because of all the government regulation in the last 2 years, and record mortgage defaults because the liberal congress forced banks to loan to unqualified borrowers....

...& we actually have democrats posting here trying to convince us that socialism is GOOD?? Talk about being brainwashed! Are you liberals going to piss down our legs next & try to tell us its raining?!

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17 Jul 2011 4:02AM

Pitiful. Socialism or barbarism. Barbarism = US culture, every man for himself, hiding behind their guns and bombs, which they substitute for dicks. That's why everyone everywhere despises it, and why it constantly falls arse over tit. Sorry for the decent human beings in that sad benighted country, and in the rest of the world where we have to put up with their arrogance and stupidity.

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19 Jul 2011 1:00AM

^^If you're so smart^^ and know so much about us, maybe you can explain why if the USA is such a terrible place as you try to make it out, then why in the hell is everybody else in the world trying to immigrate &/or sneak into the USA? Sounds to me like you're a jealous little pee-on who bitches about us with one hand and on the other hand takes billions from us in foreign aid like every other loser 3rd rate country. Pathetic.

Grow up, you failfag.

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19 Jul 2011 2:24AM

Treasury Secretary Geitner should just take the bank bailout money to the track
and let it ride. There's a 3 year old running at Belmont in a couple days who's
a sure thing according to my sources (Big Mike, Frankie the Nose and Tommy Donuts).
Going in as an 8-1 shot, this could pay off BIG TIME, and be the stimulus package
America really needs. All this yap about spending cuts and tax increases is just
a load of hot air from Washington blowhards who don't know shit.

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19 Jul 2011 5:53PM

Big Mike, Frankie the Nose and Tommy Donuts?

I seriously LMFAO! Great post, bro.

(and btw, the smart money would trust them any day before failfag Obama)

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19 Jul 2011 9:06PM

Thanks bro! Yeah, Obama's a big pussy for letting those Wall Street clowns
off the hook. If Big Mike was prez, you can be damn sure there woulda been
some kneecaps busted. You don't go playing the ponies with the outfit's dough
and then go crying to the boss with a tin cup when you lose, know what I mean?
Regular folks is getting foreclosed on and going through tough times while these
pansy-asses get bailed out and are walking around like their shit don't stink.
They should be floating in the East River instead of getting their dicks sucked
by high class European hookers, know what I mean? If Jersey shore broads is good
enough for Big Mike & the boys, they should be good enough for those assholes.

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