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I am sick and tired of blacks pulling the race card any time they want. And just how many are actually decendents of slavery. And then again, how many of them actually lived during that time. It's sickening if you look at the financial drain the black community has put on government programs. All you have to do is check the Census data. How's this for numbers?

http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/statbriefs/sb95-22/sb95-22.html

"About 1 in 3, or 1.9 million, Black mothers of childbearing ages were food stamp recipients, compared with 1 in 9, or 3.2 million White mothers. Despite these differences in recipiency rates, Black food stamp mothers did not have significantly more children than their White counterparts."

And this is just for the Food Stamp program. There's also Section 8 housing, Women, Infant and Children Food Nutrition program (WIC), Temporary Aid to Needy Families (TANF) to name only a few. These programs were designed to supplement where income didn't stretch. They were not set up to just sit on your asses and drain program after program.

Now, get off your asses and do something about it. Sitting there with your hands out at every welfare program available just shows that you're too lazy to do anything more.

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08 Jan 2012 7:50PM

And then, on the other end of the black spectrum, are the Obummers, living high on tax payer funds. How's this for you? According to a new book being released Tuesday by author DELETED, in her new tell-all book, "The O b a m a s," she describes a party they threw in October, 2009, when the unemployment was 10 percent. The Hollywood-created Halloween Party was decorated by Tim Burton and featured Johnny Depp in his Mad Hatter role from Burton's acclaimed "Alice in Wonderland." Thee event was deliberately held on the down-low.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/08/book-white-house-hosted-hollywood-halloween-bash-before-burton-film-release/#ixzz1iuwl2pIy

Think how much that money could have helped unemployed families trying to prepare for Thanksgiving, Christmas, even nightly dinner.

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08 Jan 2012 8:17PM

Blah. Niggers are niggers, worthless. Nothing will change that.

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08 Jan 2012 10:13PM

i'm not black nor white but u guys need to be banned and smacked so hard ur kids feel it

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08 Jan 2012 10:31PM

why? for posting facts from a government site?

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08 Jan 2012 10:31PM

if people don't like how things are, they should change them.

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08 Jan 2012 10:38PM

Mmm, white ignorance. Sorry to tell you, Adolf, but whites are the largest ethnic group on welfare and foodstamps in the United States. Grow up and quit being an ass.

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08 Jan 2012 10:45PM

Oh, so the Census has it out for the blacks and is giving out false information? lmao spoken like a true lazy shit with his hand out.

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08 Jan 2012 10:47PM

yea, if you're under the imporession I took the time to create a government website and imported all kinds of false facts, just posted them here, you're more stupid than I thought. Yea, like I could do that. LMAO

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08 Jan 2012 11:38PM

Most blacks would actually be descendents of slaves, but obviously because of slavery bloodlines weren't really kept for modern day blacks to look up their family history. Some have been able to, but the majority don't have that info to look up. By the same token though I doubt most people who are descended from slave owners know they are actually related to them. My ancestors for example come from ireland but I have no idea of any family history prior to 1900ish when they came over to america. I could have some type of relatives living in ireland today but I wouldn't have any clue who they are (if they even exist) and what relation they are to me.

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09 Jan 2012 1:17AM

To answer the first two (and stupidest) questions in your post...

The vast majority of blacks in the US are descendants of slaves, and none of them were alive when slavery was legal in the US (146 yeas ago).

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09 Jan 2012 6:52AM

that means they've had 146 years to improve their situations. why is it taking so long????

I just saw a news clip on tv where 7 children (yes children, junior high age) beat and kicked one girl so bad on the school bus, she ended up being unconscious. And guess what race they were? And this wasn't a racist crime. They were all black, including the victim. They don't even respect themselves enough to protect their own.

And then there's that poor 15 yr old black girl that ran away from home, lied to police, gave a false name, and ended up being deported to Columbia (the name she gave was a fugitive with a warrant out for her arrest). White? I don't think so. You'd think somewhere along the line, she would have been smart enough to tell her real name and save herself. You'd think, huh?

Then there was a mother living in a hotel with her many (I think 7) children, from multiple fathers, one incarcerated, the other not caring enough to even take his child out of that situation, the mother giving an interview on tv, DEMANDING some has to pay. She wanted to know who was gonna pay for HER kids.

I can go on and on and on. But what's the point? Blacks are always looking for an excuse or someone else to blame. It's NEVER their fault.

The Asians come in and work hard. The Mexicans come in and work hard illegally (but still work). I don't know of another race that does less than Blacks. If you do, please let me know. Both my boyfriends ancestors and my ancestors came in thru Ellis Island when there wasn't government assistance programs and still managed to provide for their families. They never looked for any handouts. And before you say differently, neither of our families EVER owned slaves. We've already researched it.

(Oh, and just a footnote. Our House Representative is a black woman, very intelligent, very articulate. I doubt she was ever on government assistance.)
Nice and knotty guy :) Mick

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09 Jan 2012 8:11AM

Both Britain and america are rich due to what they stole for other country's. For your information black people (not BLACKS) will stop pulling the race card when they no longer face racism. Black people have only had equal rights for 60years and even then they were not fully enforced till the 1980s. do some research before you begin to moan about things you know nothing about. For 300 hundred years black people where made to near hate the colour of their skin after being kidnapped from their homes, i can think of no other race who has done as much in such little time after such victimization.
Yeah slavery was abolished over 100 years ago but to enforce it is a different matter, not to mention that the american government still owe freed black slaves the land they promised them when slavery was abolished or that racism and segregation is still practiced in parts of america. lets see how far black people have climbed in 50years and i know you will then be moaning that black people have to much power.

As for the comment about black crime, america is still systematically racist and most news story's are about black criminals even though most pedophiles, rapists and gang bosses are white. This is because government rule through divide and conquer, people spend so much time hating each other they forget or are blind to the fact that bankers and politicians are robbing you blind getting pensions/bonuses worth more most people earn in a life time, being paid or doing nothing or inputting funds into rich upper class community's.

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09 Jan 2012 9:58AM

poor people come in all races. Being poor isn't an excuse for anyone who uses the system for generations. The systems were put in place to help, not to live on forever.

So, you talk about the black race having no men to show young men how to grow up and be productive members of society. If changes only took place in the 1980's, there's been almost 30 years of black youths with no black men around to help them? Why not? Where's all the fathers (or so eloquently spoken too many times to count, baby daddies) of the youth been? They aren't in the families to show the youth how to be a man. Try blaming the fathers instead of the white community.

Btw, the motivation for this post wasn't racism. It was to provide FACTS, something that's being overlooked. If the numbers had been reversed, I'd be angry at the whites instead. Anyone that uses any system for anything besides a stepping stone toward improvement is a drain on those systems. The facts stand for themselves. Until people stop making excuses for themselves and start to better themselves, nothing will ever change.

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09 Jan 2012 10:53AM

The motive of this post was clearly to smear all black people because of the behavior of some. It's racist pure and simple. If you want to hate black people, that's your business. If you want to try to get others to join you in your hatred, that's your business. But why not just be up front about it? Why pretend it's all in the interest of dispassionate investigation?

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09 Jan 2012 5:17PM

why does everything you don't agree with become an accusation of racism? Why can't the facts just be the facts? If there's a problem with the facts, then you need to take it up with the government agency. I'm just reporting them.

If you're a strong, black man, do you go into your community and provide guidance to the young men with no roll model?

Here's a link for African American CEO's of Fortune 500 Companies:

http://www.blackentrepreneurprofile.com/fortune-500-ceos/

When does repression become an excuse? I wish the repressed would just get angry enough to do something to improve their standing.

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09 Jan 2012 5:19PM

And who are you, again?

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09 Jan 2012 8:12PM

that's the best you can come up with?

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09 Jan 2012 9:19PM

Again? I don't see where you asked the first time.

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09 Jan 2012 7:51PM

zagg SUCKS NIGGER COCK

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10 Jan 2012 5:35PM

does the word nigger make you feel good about yourself? and since when did caring about others mean that person is sucking their dick? you need to go do some research and construct an intelligent, reasonable argument.
I dont agree with some of the aint black statements on this page but you are at the bottom of the pile.

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16 Feb 2012 11:20AM

Yes, saying "nigger" makes some of these people feel good about themselves. Their lives are so empty and meaningless that denigrating someone else is the only way that they can feel good about themselves.

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10 Jan 2012 7:44PM

Here is an interesting article that definitely points the responsibility in the right direction:

http://www.dvrepublic.org/story.php?n=1763&x=5

"Single black mothers in the United States comprise 3.1 million of the population. Surely they care about how they're being represented on television, so why are a disproportionate number of them showing up on Maury? Is there no empathy or concern for the disparaging statistics that show in 2003 the number of single American (not including divorcees) mothers across the board increased to 10 million from 3 million in 1970. More recently, in 2007 it was reported that single mothers make up 12 percent of the total population, of which 30.4 percent are single black mothers.

Ultimately, it's not the show that's exploiting us; it is our own failure to correct our own family unit within the African-American community. Our failure to teach the hardships of having children out of wedlock shows how non-important solid family units are to our culture.

With or without Maury, where did we go so wrong?"

The entire article is worth the read. If you're African-American, it's definitely worth it to take a minute and read.

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10 Jan 2012 8:16PM

Did you know lots of black people taken as slaves were captured by other black people? And then sold to all the other countries that had slaves, (The USA wasn't the only country to use slavery, and blacks weren't the only race ever enslaved) So all you pussies need to grow the fuck up, realize the world is a big stinking piece of shit that has everybody at each others throats constantly, because greedy CEOs and corrupt political figures make it so with their greed that strips away from the common man, so with that said, why don't you get the fuck off this site and stop just bitching about the way people are, and actually try to change something for the better, unlike this useless forum post.

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10 Jan 2012 8:28PM

What, exactly, do you propose that people do?

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11 Jan 2012 7:39AM

i agree with almost everything your saying but what you need to remember is yes people of all colors have brought and sold others but only Britain and the usa continued the the trade for 300years, both these countries are rich today because of the slave trade and the only reason they stopped was because slaves began to burn the plantations they worked on (it was no longer economically viable). People are angry because the racist system is still in full swing and how can the powerless and disfranchised put up a fight against years of racism and fascist governments.
It is truly sad that black people who are stereotyped don't fight the stereotype but i can understand when you see your own self image in the mass media portrayed as single mother, gang member, criminal, lazy and unable of doing any better.
The day people can see that the rich and powerful want us to fight, hate and kill each other we can all no matter what color take back the power over our own lives.

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11 Jan 2012 10:17AM

Your understanding of the history of slavery and the slave trade is sorely lacking.

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11 Jan 2012 12:29PM

hows that then? slave history is much more than the dribble they force feed children in schools.

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11 Jan 2012 2:02PM

1) "both these countries are rich today because of the slave trade": They became rich from "free labor" as well. The implication that they became rich only from slavery is false. 2) "the only reason they stopped was because slaves began to burn the plantations they worked on (it was no longer economically viable)": You seem to be making two claims here, both of them false. Abolition was not a result of slave rebellions. There were rebellions in the West Indies, but the reason Britain abolished slavery was because of increasing moral and political objections to it. See the career of Wilberforce, for example. In the US, slave rebellions were practically nonexistent (only Stono, Nat Turner, and one in Louisiana were of any significance). Abolition came because of increasing Northern opposition to slavery and its spread. Even in Brazil, where there were significant rebellions, abolition came as a result of moral and political opposition, not as a result of anything the slaves did. As far as slavery being uneconomic, the work of Fogel and Genovese puts that old notion completely to rest.

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11 Jan 2012 4:27PM

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11 Jan 2012 7:52AM

Color is developed through environment over generations, as are certain physical and mental traits according to requirement and survival. The darkest people in hotter countries with longer day light hours, the lightest in colder with shorter day light hours, the physically strong form countries where for example you have to hunt and kill to eat, the more intelligent (intelligence according to what is needed in western countries) in more built up modern countries with technology and standard education for all.

Now through migration, slavery, immigration, invasion ect we all live together and most of these traits have blended and changed depending on where we live. Unfortunately color is one of the oldest human traits and is still around.

All countries on this planet were part of one continent africa but over hundreds of thousands of years the land has moved apart. Proving we are all human and once all the same color but still people feel to use race as a tool to beat others over the head with. Its nothing more than basic science and the day all people have equal right, vioces, education and power we will see that.

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11 Jan 2012 4:27PM

1. america is rich for 3 main reasons land stolen from the native Americans, slavery and the money from the British empire (which was gained from invading and conquering other peoples land eg Africa, china, India, Australia, Brazil, the west indies and so on).
2. yes there were many white activists who helped bring about abolition but those numbers were not substantial. You seem to be saying slaves just sat and waited to be freed and that simply is not true, there were 200 recorded rebellions between 1600 and 1860 add to this the unrecorded and its more that just a few. the morals of white america many have changed but not enough and not soon enough. Lincoln freed slaves in states where rebellion was taking place not in places it wasn't or bordering states, if morals change they change completely which Lincoln showed through this act. The north was more morally forward than the south but during the civil war this was not to save or free slaves but create armies of black freed men under white control. A slave was the perfect solider angry as what had been done to them, physically fit due to hard work and willing to do as told for the protection the union army was willing to give.
3. times were changing and slave owners were unable to keep up, slavery couldn't be upgraded and didn't fit with the changing times. Not for moral responsibility but for potential to make money. With war outbreak, rebellions and passing of Lincolns half hearted law slave owners had no choice and even than most slave owners refused to give up on the people they paid hard cold cash for resulting in slave owners being paid for loss of earnings. The worst thing america did was teach slaves to read freedom through education, freedom through religion as times changed slaves became wise to what was happening around them and began to fight back.
Fogels studies into slavery have been provided time and again to be unfounded and his research sloppy. He claimed the south would always find profit from slavery but based this idea on one study of one plantation. He himself agreed that his field of study for this claim wasn't well built or executed. In many instances he studied the wrong information for the wrong reason.
Genovese was a very intelligent man even though i disagree with his ideology on slavery not just because i morally disagree but i believe they are fabricated. for example slaves contributed to there own slavery, slaves are better as slaves and not free men and the parentalism between slave owner and slave. He should have gone into politics because he could talk his way out a nuclear disaster.
I'm confused as to your stand point on this issue your previous post seem to contradict the reply posted to me.

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11 Jan 2012 5:19PM

You are apparently serious and well-menaing, but I'm afraid you're operating with a number of misconceptions.

1. You seem wholly to discount the labor of tens of millions of European immigrants.
2. There were only 3 uprisings involving more than a handful of slaves in the US, as noted. The reasons are various, but that's the fact. Genovese has a good chapter on this is "Roll Jordan Roll".
3. You merely reassert your position, which is countered by all economic and historical analysis of slavery since the 1950s. It's not sufficient to look at Wikipedia and say that Fogel has been shown to be "unfounded". Fogel's data sources were manifold, which you would know if you'd actually read his books. And none of the views which you attribute to Genovese bear any relation to his actual views. No one who'd actually read "The Political Economy of Slavery" or "Roll Jordan Roll", for example, could so misconstrue him.

You owe it to yourself to read the scholarship before you make these sorts of statements.

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11 Jan 2012 5:58PM

That is, "well-meaning".

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