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I confess I did not know what to do when I experienced this situation at the gym.

So it was 11pm at the gym. I was doing my workout routine. I am quite skinny and I was skinny back then. I hated it, did my workout routine but nothing changed I stayed the way I was. But I kept on going on and on. Today I know my nutrition wasn't right and I focused on the wrong muscle workouts.

But back to topic. So there was a girl coming to the gym at the same time I came to the gym each time. I saw her regularily. So once I chatted her up and it went very well. But at one point she became pissed for some reason and yelled shit at me. So I yelled back and it was over - I thought. Some minutes later I went to the toilet. Someone outside said "Finish shitting and come out we have to talk to you". I went out, looked at him - he was buffer than me and with some other guy and felt so great about being physically superior and being protected by the law and all cameras that would have recorded me punching him. I realized that and asked, "do we know each other?". He talked trash I repeated my question. He tried to instruct me how to talk to the girl in the future. I said "do we know each other?" he said no and I left. I went to the treadmill and the gym's night guard came over, a massively buff. He smiled arrogantly and talked trash. And of course the two other guys joined him after some time. "Hey guys we found a prey". So there we were, me running on the treadmill and three guys - all buff - in front of me trying to tell me how to treat women. You know just because they were buff and super-confident about that shit and I knew had I even used a pepper spray they would've used all that video material against me. Doing nothing makes me naturally feel weaker and weaker. Trying to be snappy on the one hand doesn't come across as confident as my fucking body's heart rate went up, I couldn't talk and on the other hand I knew if one of those fuckers would get me after I bruised his ego without cameras I would've been dead meat.

Even today I still have this lean body but recently I started working out again with a focus on actually building muscle, eating enough(!) protein and so on.

But that shit can happen again, what the fuck should I do?

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14 Aug 2012 5:17PM

Reach down deep, get your balls and man up. I'm a skinny bastard myself, I'm stuck at 165 and workout 5 days a week, you can't just let people think they have the upper hand on you like that, study self defense. Just because someone has more muscle mass doesn't mean they can beat your ass. You would have a speed advantage anyway. Hell, I do a tougher workout than guys who look bigger than me, you may even be stronger in some respects. Learn to use strategic weapons, those round 5 pound weights on the machines would do some damage. Just make sure they hit you first, it will be you defending yourself in fear of your life. My advice is just avoid the fuckers, and tell them straight up to fuck off if they msss with you.

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14 Aug 2012 5:35PM

Dude don't give me that "man up" shit, that doesn't help. "you can't just let people think they have the upper hand on you like that" that's what I think, too. "study self defense." bro I've been in several self defense classes yet when I first met the guys. They help shit developing the skills you need. All they teach is "deescalate". Fighting in sdc is weak shit. "Just because someone has more muscle mass doesn't mean they can beat your ass" Oh yes he can this is what I experienced in ALL(so don't give me that "you were just in the wrong martial arts classes"-rap) martial arts classes. "Hell, I do a tougher workout than guys who look bigger than me, you may even be stronger in some respects." I need to know them to focus on them next time. "Learn to use strategic weapons, those round 5 pound weights on the machines would do some damage." have you tried that or is it just theory? You know using strategic weapons sounds good but does it work? In this situation when I was on the treadmill I had nothing moveable around me - just my mp3-player. "Just make sure they hit you first, it will be you defending yourself in fear of your life." When they hit me first there won't be defending. "My advice is just avoid the fuckers, and tell them straight up to fuck off if they msss with you." Yeah, but avoiding isn't the way to go for me. I mean I avoid hanging out with them or being in areas where they are (I am doing weight lifting at home currently) but these people look for prey. And based on my appearence(and no, self confidence does shit for you when you are skinny facing a buff guy) people like that see me as prey. Whenever I approach women and they see that(and are not related to the girls in any way), they see themselves entitled to talk trash to me.

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14 Aug 2012 6:39PM

Sorry, I can't help you if you're just a pussy. Sounds like they had you beat before they even talked to you. Maybe they were right talking shit to you when you take an attitude like this with someone trying to help you. Hope the vaginitis wears off before they beat you into a pulp.

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14 Aug 2012 7:25PM

it's people like you looking stupid by not adressing my feedback but insulting me instead, bro. And "man up" has NEVER EVER helped anyone. And you know it.

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14 Aug 2012 8:47PM

Dude, I just gave you a good bit of honest advice in a nice way and you responded by bitching. Yes, 'man up' does help people, it serves as a wake up call to quit being a pussy...which in your case seems to be your main problem. You're just focusing on that first sentence because you seem to have the most trouble with it. I started out being nice, now you're just acting like a little bitch so thusly you deserve to be spoken to like one. I bet you wigged out on that chick, judging from your vastly emotional response to a simple help comment. You're doomed, ya psycho. Leave the women alone.

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14 Aug 2012 9:25PM

"Yes, 'man up' does help people, it serves as a wake up call to quit being a pussy..."

You are one of those cases where reason is in vain.

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14 Aug 2012 8:51PM

You wouldn't last one hour in the Army.

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14 Aug 2012 9:26PM

true. You would last in the army forever, you would become the army, with one move of a finger you'd cause dramatic global changes.

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15 Aug 2012 10:30PM

Actually no, I've served my time. Just a good soldier, nothing more.

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14 Aug 2012 6:44PM

Mentality matters a lot in a situation like this, you're fucked.

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14 Aug 2012 5:21PM

depending on your size and muscle mass, you may have to get about 100g of protein every day to make and maintain significant muscle gains. but if you ever get into a fight and you are actually afraid that you're going to get the shit kicked out of you, i say take some krav maga classes (i love it). if you can't be stronger than someone, be faster. if you can't be faster, be sneakier. good luck dude.

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14 Aug 2012 5:41PM

So you have real life experiences with km(apart from "loving" it)?

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14 Aug 2012 6:01PM

go in dont talk to anyone use headphones ignore the idiots its simple lol

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14 Aug 2012 7:25PM

you are simple - simple minded.

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14 Aug 2012 6:06PM

It depend on they should beat you or you should beat them. If you know how I mean. You didn't write that "some reason" she pissed off. So two options: Be more gentleman in the future. Or be more confident and beat one guy, if you have right, the laws will protect you. And after you attack a man, the others will think about that once again if he should attack you for some bitch. Everybody fears from the pain...
(sry for bad english, hope you'll understand)

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14 Aug 2012 7:57PM

Jesus christ, you tough guys.
Have you really been near or a friend who is buff?
Those weights aren't empty.
My buddy can lift my GF with one hand.
He could break my arm with no effort.

Now with proper service training, maybe.
Another 5'10 maybe 175# buddy went thru Ranger school, very quiet guy.
He was attacked at a pizza parlor by a huge drunk guy who had his hands around his neck choking him.
My bud sat still holding on to the table, his neck bulging with tendons.
This guy tried hard until his friends pulled him off.
They sent over 2 pitchers of beer.

Rick? Why didn't you do something?
He wasn't hurting me yet. He'll cool off eventually.
But what if he did?
He wouldn't have a chance.
What if he punched you?
He would miss.
What if he jumped you, he's buff?
I'd have to lay him on the ground until he cooled off.
What if he picked up a chair and ran at you?
I'd disarm him then disable him because he might hurt someone else.
Can you kill someone with one hand?
Yes although I only need a few fingers to disable them. Can we eat pizza now?

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14 Aug 2012 9:24PM

So what should we take out of that?

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14 Aug 2012 9:25PM

I've got a pretty small build as well, but I hold up just fine in fights. You have to fight with your brain, not your brawn, when you're dealing with physically superior opponents. Be quick, dont let them hit you - tai chi and Aikido classes can help you learn how to use the other guy's momentum and strength against him to throw him off balance. I've literally seen a 90 pound, 50 year old lady throw a 200 pound, 30 year old guy across a room - it's all about balance and momentum.

That's assuming you ever actually have to get into a physical conflict, though. If you want to avoid that altogether, go talk to the Gym owner, tell him to watch the camera recordings, and to fire his night guard for harassing customers. Have him send those recordings to the police as well, and you can get a restraining order against all of the guys involved. If you're worried about anything happening away from the cameras, buy yourself a knife, tazer, or concealable gun, and keep a micro camera on you so that you have evidence that any incident in which you had to defend yourself was exactly that - self defense.

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15 Aug 2012 3:56PM

That is some good advice there. But if u pull a gun chances are ur gonna have to use it, and could u do it.

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14 Aug 2012 11:29PM

Dammit, I thought this was gonna be about hot girls working out

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14 Aug 2012 11:51PM

What did she get angry about? And what did each of you yell at each other?

If the other guys were there at the time, couldn't have simply said, "Look, dudes, you want to look all macho protecting her honor. But she started it by yelling at me first. Whoever here would not have gotten angry if she said [insert quote here] to him, he can throw the first punch."

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14 Aug 2012 11:56PM

So far I have yet to read what you said. That part was conveniently left out. Your options are 1) apologize. 2) change gym memberships. That's it.

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14 Aug 2012 11:56PM

Look at them, and I shit you not...straight faced, calmly tell all 3 of them...That their mothers' poop in the yard, and continue what your doing. I guarantee none of them has a comeback, you seem whitty while not offending too much, and they get insecure themselves.

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15 Aug 2012 1:17AM

Better yet, why not just look at them calmly in the eyes and in a clear low voice tell them to fuck off. Then go back to your workout as if they don't exist. Guys that are willing to start shit like that usually have at least one in the group who has the sense to realize if one small guy will blatantly tell em to fuck off, then there's a good reason to leave him alone. Most guys who are gym nuts and get all ripped and have to start shit with people are usually morons, but even morons have the self preservation to not screw with someone who remains calm and quiet. and worse come to worse, just do the simplest thing, bruce lee style snapping backhand to the side of the eye.

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15 Aug 2012 1:30AM

lol Yes, please listen to these people then post after you're out of the hospital.

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15 Aug 2012 1:50AM

Im not gonna read all this nonsense just going to say this...

Guys that big are compensating. Most guys with big mouths cant fight. All bark, no bite. Sure theyre physically strong but Id be willing to bet that none of them know how to throw a punch, which is why they roll in packs. You dont need to be big to fuck someone up... hit him once, hit him right, hes going out like a light.

Also remember one other thing, there are no referees, there are no judges, there are no scorecards, you cant get disqualified. If one of them touches you, grabs you uncomfortably, you grab him uncomfortably - grab his nuts, squeeze and twist. Furthermore, confidence works, so does crazy. Personally, if someone gets tough with me I stare them down and give them a smirk like "yea, ok, I wish you would". The other option is, get loud, get in his face, yell a little, startle him, throw a temper tantrum, crazy works sometimes.

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15 Aug 2012 2:41AM

I was always a skinny shit growing up and topped out a whopping 5' 6". I'm pretty sure the most I ever weighed in high school was 150. Anyway I have a tendency to laugh when I get nervous. Oddly enough I realized pretty quickly that laughing at guys considerably larger then me made them think twice about giving me shit. Since high school I've bulked up and have stayed pretty healthy most moron guys don't typically start shit with me but on a few occasions I have used laughter to my advantage. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it (seeing as how I probably just got lucky... I could have just as easily gotten stomped into the ground), but I figured I'd throw my experience out into the cesspool of other ridiculous ideas. Sincerely though good luck in the future OP.

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15 Aug 2012 3:19AM

OP here: I just want to say, most of this thread is golden advice.

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15 Aug 2012 5:03AM

OP is a pussy. Should of raped that hoe then ripped out her fucking spine and beat those roid jockeys to death. That is how a real man would do it. Man up bro...Chuck Norris did and he out lived Bruce Lee. Real men son...real men shit.

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15 Aug 2012 5:23AM

tough internet nerd

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15 Aug 2012 5:40AM

Yeah right but nothing is in for me when I go to jail because of that. YOU won't be there to help me then. You might think for a second: "Wow he's tough" and then revert to playing world of warcraft while I am sitting in a cell for my whole life.

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15 Aug 2012 11:07AM

The laws protect the innocents! If they mocking with you, and want to beat you, you must defence yourself. And you wont go to jail cuz of that...

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15 Aug 2012 12:47PM

To make that statement you need to have experience that you lack.

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15 Aug 2012 5:40AM

If they start shit with you and throw the first punch, avoid the hit, punch him in the throat(to choke and startle), punch to the gut to knock air from his lungs and double him over, then a knee to the nose area to blur vision. Then get away from him since you're a small guy!

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15 Aug 2012 7:27AM

You are doing the right thing, just go back into the shower's and start sucking down all the guys "Protein" that you can drink....

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15 Aug 2012 9:38AM

Let's take a step back for a moment. You're in a fucking gym, not a high school where bullies are asking for your lunch money. You PAID to be there. It's even ridiculous to think that you'd have to entertain the notion of fighting when you should be figuring out how to solve problems like a responsible adult instead.

Like a previous guy said, talk to the management. Do you really think that it's good for business when your customers are being harassed and intimidated? Do you really think they'd even want that? Once you figure out that you have every bit as much right to be there as your testosterone-driven meathead friends and the rent-a-cop night guard, you may realize that the gym has the most power in this situation and the ability to resolve the matter. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO GET INTO A FIGHT.

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15 Aug 2012 12:09PM

I did. The manager - buff-arrogant himself - rallied behind his night guard saying that I shouldn't harass female members of the gym and ultimately canceled my contract with the gym because of that.

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15 Aug 2012 1:28PM

So ur not even a member of the gym anymore?? I feel OP has left a lot of the story out. It's been asked before, but I'll try again, what was said between u and the woman who started all of this? Maybe u just need help in talking to women? A lot of guys do, but u got to admit u need help.

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15 Aug 2012 5:47PM

You got to admit shit, keep your pseudo-psychological gibberish to yourself. What matters is that foreigners do not have any right to treat me like that, only the police can step in. So asking what she said and what I said is pointless.

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15 Aug 2012 10:27PM

This guy's obviously got some problems, he's probably stalking the chick right now...masturbating onto clippings of her hair. Just the fact that he won't say what transpired is uber suspicious. To the OP: stop calling everyone "buff", it's making you sound like even more of a bitch. If you're nit a member of the gym anymore then there is no problem, it solved itself, so why are you asking advice for a non-existant issue?

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15 Aug 2012 1:15PM

Are u looking for advice on how to get bigger? Go to t-nation dot com. Lots of good advice there. Let me warn you though. U gotta eat a shit ton of food. Not just protein either. I was spending about $600 a month on groceries for myself when I was gaining. If u think you're already eating a lot u have no idea. Double it or triple it and then you're at weight gaining levels. I personally think u handled the situation pretty well. U didn't run away and u didn't escalate it either.

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15 Aug 2012 1:25PM

I did not handle the situation well. I would've handled it well if I didn't have to think about it today.

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15 Aug 2012 1:38PM

Seriously, all those replies and no common sense... three companies to look into : Kershaw, SOG, and Spyderco. Practice moving and using a blade with confidence, there are VERY few gym monkeys willing to face down a man who knows how to use a knife.

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15 Aug 2012 3:23PM

You must not carry a knife to the gym in germany.

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15 Aug 2012 4:51PM

If the laws of your country prefer you to be a victim as opposed to safe, you are in the wrong country. Time to move.

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15 Aug 2012 5:43PM

To where?

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15 Aug 2012 1:59PM

Get a concealed weapons permit and start carrying. They can talk all the shit they want, Cause thats what meatheads tend to do with all that testosterone flowing from juicing so much. Because kicking them in the balls wouldn't be an option since they're all roided out and probably have the equivalent of raisins anyways. As long as they don't touch you, just brush it off. Your obviously not looking for a fight OP. OR you could go the martial arts road, Big guys hurt when you get hit by them TRUST ME, but if your lean and quick like you say you are: "You should be swift like crouching tiger, ready to strike." (old asian man voice) it's not hard to get someones back, especially when they probably can't even wipe their own ass.

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15 Aug 2012 3:22PM

I am german, you cannot carry guns to the gym here.

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15 Aug 2012 6:17PM

ithought this was a porn site

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15 Aug 2012 7:30PM

Make them hit you first (its easy just start verbally attacking their manhood) then call the cops and sue the pants off the rent-a-cop, the two guys with him and the management

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15 Aug 2012 10:37PM

stop being a fucking pussy. i realise that probably won't help, but in that case nothing will help so just stay at home and don't go out.

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15 Aug 2012 11:31PM

Here's what you do if muscular dudes start harassing you: start screaming, "No! No! Oh my God! The voices are back! Please don't tell me to shit on the bench press again!" Then, start doing an impersonation of a velociraptor.

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Doesn't matter how big they are, grab them by the balls, squeeze as hard as you can, and punch them in the throat with your other hand.

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